The cobray is simply the m119, but its easy to see how the names could get confused. M10 m10 45 2 stage sionics style fake suppressor 78x9 tpi copy of original mitch werbell mac 10 sionics design in a dummy suppressor overall length. Military armament corporation is a defunct american manufacturer of small arms, cofounded by gordon ingram, an engineer and gun designer, and mitchell werbell, owner of sionics, which manufactured gun sound suppressors. These are high quality custom made fake suppressors barrel extensions for the mp5, clones and other 3 lug guns. The name was an acronym for studies in the operational negation of insurgents and countersubversion.
A specific suppressor was developed for the mac11, which used wipes as baffles, instead of the reflex baffles that mitchell werbell iii created for the mac 10. During 1969, gordon ingram met with mitch werbell to demonstrate his prototype model 10 caliber. The gun was built by mac and its successors through the early 1980s, and, although it was shopped extensively by werbell to the military his suppressors were used in small numbers by special. The mac 10 is such a loud clack box, that a quieter suppressor isnt going to make that much difference. I also found this passage from the link i provided interesting. This is a mac 10 in 45 acp in the original box with manual and original military armament corp warranty card.
Gun is in very good condition and shoots excellent with no malfunctions using winchester white box ammo. Reflex mounts provide 2points of contact on the barrel, not a brake, that ensures an engineeringbased strong attachment. The mac11 fired the smaller caliber cartridge through a 32round. After werbell closed his pr firm to design suppressors for firearms.
Bantamsized, sporting a handlebar moustache and carrying a swagger stick, mitchell livingston werbell iii was a wealthy bon vivant, international arms dealer, designer of silencers, and rightwing covert operator. That being said check out swr new take apart 9mm can. Ingram was the creator of the mac 10 and mac 11 machine pistols, and is widely credited with repopularizing the submachine gun. Ingram in 1964 the m10 was built predominantly from steel stampings. During the same period, werbell had been working separately developing. I always thought that shooting a mac without a suppressor attached was inherently dangerous. This is a semiautomatic, blowbackoperated 9mm pistol that fires from the closed bolt. The m10 and m11 suppressors rear section had a core that was a simple tube with a series of holes. Mid 1975 military armament corporation goes into chapter 11 receivership. A number of other variants of the m10 have since been produced including the m. M10 m10 45 2 stage sionics style fake suppressor 78x9. If you are not 100% satisfied with your suppressor after your form 4 is approved, you may return it to silencer shop for a full refund in the form of a gift.
Dec 19, 2017 the military armament corporation model 10 submachine gun, better known as the mac 10, is an iconic gun, but one that many people are likely to associate with criminals and hollywood movies. Mac m10 11 9mm barrel extfake suppressor read description and see additional pictures below more questions. I have a color slide of werbell posing with a suppressed ar15. Apr 07, 2016 werbell himself designed suppressors for the m16 and m14 and applied for his first patents in january 1968. Werbell would do the sidebyside comparison testing in front of an audience made up of his office staff. Ingram december 30, 1924 november 4, 2004 was an american inventor and entrepreneur. Sionics was absorbed by the company mac military armament corporation and later called cobray where werbell developed a training center for counterterrorism in the 1970s.
If you are not 100% satisfied with your suppressor after your form 4 is approved, you may return it to silencer shop for a full refund in the form of a gift certificate of the silencer minus tax stamp within 90 days of your form 4 approval date. While introducing some impressive and interesting concepts, the weapon system failed to materialize as a serious contender within the established submachine market and was soon overtaken by other. Stainless steel 11 items 174 stainless steel 22 items titanium items. Suppressor shoppers, reflex suppressors are the best type of suppressor you can buy, no matter what manufacturer. Rpb industries m10 suppressor class iiinfa suppressors. Mitchell livingston werbell iii 19181983 was an oss operative, mercenary, paramilitary. The mac10 is such a loud clack box, that a quieter suppressor isnt going to make that much difference. The case was eventually thrown out of court, but the indictments happened to coincide with werbell being subpoened by a senate committee that was. A twostage suppressor by sionics was designed for the mac10, which not only abated the noise created, but made it easier to control. They are constructed as one piece welded barrel extensions with no internal access. The suppressor is fitted with a cloth cover to allow for a secondary hand.
The ingram mac11 military armament corporation model 11 advancement 1 or m11a1 is a machine pistol designed by gordon ingram at the military armament corporation mac during the 1970s. This unit has a modular mounting system, also know as thread adapters. One more litt thing it is not a mac 11 there was a mac 11 but it was smaller version of the mac10 in 380acp only. It provides a rigidity to barrel harmonics not met by brakemounted cans like aac, with optimal accuracy. Anyways i love the trident quiet not too big and does double duty as a great pistol can, us u can use it on sub sonic 300blk on an ar though there are much better options for that. The werbells suppressor was based on the customissue sound suppressor by mitchel werbell for the mac10 and mac11. Though wipes are less durable than reflex baffles, they had the advantage of proving quieter for the mac 11. The ingram mac10 m10 was a shortlived, compact submachine gun initiative seeing limited production and equallylimited action across the globe. I started looking into having gemtech convert the internals to a more modern system, but decided against it later.
Unfortunately werbell and ingram lost control of the company at this point and the new owners practically booted both of them out of the operation. Following the japanese attack on pearl harbour werbell had joined the us army serving briefly as a second lieutenant with the signal corps before volunteering to join the. A specific suppressor was developed for the mac 11, which used wipes as baffles, instead of the reflex baffles that mitchell werbell iii created for the mac 10. Ingram mac10 m10 submachine gun smg military factory. In tests the mac units performed well, showing them top quality suppressors. Most of your noise that is left over is the huge bolt slap on closing. It can be used on subguns from uzis to m11s, m16 in sub gun calibers, and rifles utilizing subsonic cartridges like the 300 whisper. Mitch werbell iii was an oss officer during world war ii.
The us air force still has at least one mac10 submachine gun. Sionics also adapted existing firearms to be compatible with suppressors. The werbell s suppressor was based on the customissue sound suppressor by mitchel werbell for the mac 10 and mac 11. Armament corporation mac, later called cobray, where werbell developed a. Office of strategic services operative mitchell werbell iii founded a company dedicated to the development of cheap and efficient soundsuppressors for automatic weapons. The forward tube has a couple of m baffles and spiral diffusers. Ingram was the creator of the mac10 and mac11 machine pistols, and is widely credited with repopularizing the submachine gun. Oct 06, 2019 sometimes this gun is referred to as the mac11, however, cobray did not use the mac designator. The weapon was small just 11 inches long, it used a straight blowback. Werbells modular designs and use of exotic materials such as titanium in sound suppressors influence their design to the present day. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. Designed by mitchell werbell iii of sionics with a unique looking two stage design with the first stage being larger than the second. At this point werbell leaves mac and takes his half of the guns with him, starting a new company, defense services, inc.
The original sionics suppressor for the mac is to most here. The armys human engineering laboratory hel at aberdeen proving ground developed a number of suppressors for the m. The courses lasted 11 weeks and students included members of the military, highrisk executives, cia agents, and private individuals. Apr 24, 2020 in tests the mac units performed well, showing them top quality suppressors. It is known for manufacturing the mac 10 and mac 11 machine pistols in the 1970s. Along with mitchell werbell iii, he founded military armament corporation. It is far smaller and lighter than the original sionics design, but it retains the classic look of the early mac suppressors by the addition of an overdiameter heat shield, knurled for a steady grip. Reflex suppressors are the best type of suppressor you can buy, no matter what manufacturer. The weapon is a subcompact version of the model 10 mac 10, and is chambered to fire a smaller. M10 m10 45 2 stage sionics style fake suppressor 78x9 tpi. What did not last were the wipes, which needed replacement periodically.
This design gave a very distinctive look to the mac 10 submachine gun for which it was designed. While a meter is nice for research and fine tuning certain aspects of the suppressor, perceived sound. In 1967 werbell went into business with gordon ingram, designer of a small submachine gun, slightly larger than a conventional pistol, on which werbell suppressors were mounted, for a quiet and compact weapon with military contracts in mind. Dec 30, 2012 werbell fought hard for but failed to land a massive contract to make the mac a standardissue weapon. In 1973 werbells arms company defense services, inc. Its larger rear tube expansion chamber is filled with grommet eyelets. The firm subsequently rebranded the guns as mac10s and offered a smaller. The mac10 military armament corporation model 10, officially the m10 is a highly compact, blowback operated machine pistol developed by gordon b. During the 1950s, werbell decided to get into the clandestine weapons business.
The mac m10 and m11 has a telescoping bolt, which wraps around the barrel, which makes the mac a lot shorter than most smgs, as well as balances the weight of the weapon over the pistol grip where the magazine is located. Some of werbells bestknown suppressors were those made for the mac submachine guns. The term mac 10 is commonly used in unofficial parlance. The mac10 military armament corporation model 10 is a highly compact, blowback operated, selective fire machine gun technically, a machine pistol developed by gordon b. Mitchell werbell iii project gutenberg selfpublishing. Its designer, gordon ingram, and his business partner mitchell werbell iii, had originally hoped it would become an essential tool for special operations forces, covert operatives, and law enforcement. Smg r us coming in at number 7 on the top ten is the. Feb 26, 2018 the ingram mac10 m10 was a shortlived, compact submachine gun initiative seeing limited production and equallylimited action across the globe. Werbell himself designed suppressors for the m16 and m14 and applied for his first patents in january 1968. Gordon ingram and mitch werbell resulted in werbell demonstrating it to.
The military armament corporation model 10 submachine gun, better known as the mac 10, is an iconic gun, but one that many people are likely to associate with criminals and hollywood movies. It is also the default suppressed barrel for the mark 11 in payday. Werbells modular designs and use of exotic materials such as titanium in sound suppressors have an impact on their design to the present day. Had he succeeded, sionics might be a household name today. Includes cleaning rod under magazine in styrofoam, front strap, magazine loader and a total of 4 magazines. This finely machined piece of equipment is the mac internal parts kit for a. It is known for manufacturing the mac10 and mac11 machine pistols in the 1970s. The m10 is one out of a series of machine pistols, the others being. The company name was changed to the more appropriate military armament corporation mac and it began to make and sell ingrams new subgun and werbells suppressor. The military armament corporation model 10 submachine gun, better known as the mac10, is an iconic gun, but one that many people are likely. A specific suppressor was developed for the mac11, which used wipes as baffles, instead of the reflex baffles that mitchell werbell iii created for the mac10. Ingram in 1964 it is a simple, lowcost design with few moving parts, making it easy to manufacture and maintain. Sionics was absorbed by military armament corporation mac, later called cobray, where werbell developed a training center for counterterrorism in the 1970s.
In the early 1960s a former oss operative and mercenary mitchell werbell iii set up a company dedicated to the development of cheap and efficient sound suppressors for automatic weapons. Mac m1011 9mm barrel extfake suppressor read description and see additional pictures below more questions. Mac would have a short life, with all its assets sold at a bankruptcy auction in april 1976 but it had plenty of time to create what would become an iconic gun. The courses lasted 11 weeks and students included members of the military. This design gave a very distinctive look to the mac10 submachine gun for which it was designed. The military armament corporation model 10 submachine gun, better known as the mac10, is an iconic gun, but one that many people are likely to associate with criminals and hollywood movies. Not only does this make for a more controllable mac, the heat shield also makes up the most extraordinary feature of this unit. Togetherweserved cpt mitchell livingston werbell, iii. Mitchell werbells achievements in suppressor design were once. Total screens modern firearm silencers bev fitchetts guns. After werbell closed his pr firm to design suppressors commonly known as silencers, a term which is a misnomer 7 for firearms, he incorporated sionics to design suppressors for the m16 rifle. Werbell fought hard for but failed to land a massive contract to make the mac a standardissue weapon. In the early 1970s, the rights to the gunsuppressor combination were purchased by mac military armament corporation and the guns became known as the mac10 and mac11.
Sometimes this gun is referred to as the mac11, however, cobray did not use the mac designator. The ingram mac 11 military armament corporation model 11 advancement 1 or m11a1 is a machine pistol designed by gordon ingram at the military armament corporation mac during the 1970s. The suppressor was what attracted many buyers to the m10 and m11 weapons. The mac m10 and m11 fired from an open bolt, and the light weight of the bolt results in a rapid rate of fire. Note the werbell influence in this counterswirl designthe military accessories companys internal suppressor parts for the ingram m10. The mac suppressors the sionics units were designed by general mitchell werbcll ill during the 1970s.
Werbell s modular designs and use of exotic materials such as titanium in sound suppressors have an impact on their design to the present day. These are high quality custom made fake suppressorsbarrel extensions for the mp5, clones and other 3 lug guns. Werbell remained president, and ingram the chief engineer. While the original mac sionics suppressors and their multiple clones sounded decent, the performance figures on a meter were poor. The weapon is a subcompact version of the model 10, and is chambered to fire a smaller. In 1973 werbell s arms company defense services, inc. The military armament corporation model 10, officially abbreviated as m10 or m10, and more commonly known as the mac10, is a compact, blowback operated machine pistol that was developed by gordon b. Werbell s modular designs and use of exotic materials such as titanium in sound suppressors influence their design to the present day. Apr 03, 2019 mac would have a short life, with all its assets sold at a bankruptcy auction in april 1976 but it had plenty of time to create what would become an iconic gun the big mac. This was to support the werbelldesigned sound suppressor a device. Nov 23, 2004 11 in 1973 werbell s arms company defense services, inc. These smgs are lots 1069 m1045, 1070 m109, and 1067 m11 at. Mitch werbell in 63 page 2 jfk assassination debate. Standard markings and cobray logo on the first stage with a knurled end cap for servicing.
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